Eliza EMERSON

Cir. 1807 - 1867  (~ 60 )

• Name	Eliza EMERSON  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
  Born	Cir. 1807	, , England, UK   [5, 6, 7]
  	Unknown, 1861 census states Portsmouth, Hampshire--but unconvincing.
  Christened	19 Abr 1812	Alverstoke , Southampton (Hampshire), England, UK
  Died	Mar 1867	, Lincolnshire, England. UK   [5, 6]
  Buried	23 Mar 1867	Manby, Lincolnshire, England, UK   [6, 8]
  	St. Mary's Church--NBI File #15684; see photo of parish record, Manby Parish
  Confirmation	7 Mar 1973	Provo, Utah County, Utah, USA
  	Provo Temple
  Religion	Anglican
  Notes	The use of the term"British Subject" was to conceal the fact that Eliza Emerson was the daughter of an unmarried mother. The term "British Subject" was sufficiently confusing that nobody was thought able to make this determination. === Above may be correct. On 1841 Census she is shown as not being born in the County and on 1851 Census she is a British Subject and on 1861 Census being born in Portsmouth, Hampshire. Heather ROGERS nee JOHNSON my cousin and myself are convinced that that Eliza born on 5 July 1803 is the correct Eliza, but she has given vague information because she was illegitimate. Her mother Elizabeth is sister to Robert Emmerson. (Source: Shirley Berry) === 13 January 2011--Changes made to birth date and location, and removal of christening reference. Reference the IGI--through the Hugh Wallis website    Elizabeth Emmerson, born 3 Nov 1805, christened 03 Nov 1805 in Scamblesby, Mother was Elizabeth Emmerson  (C030771)   Eliza Emmerson, born 5 Jul 1803, christened 10 Jul 1803 in Scamblesby, mother was Elizabeth Emmerson  (C030771)   Ann Emmerson, born ??, christened 12 Oct 1834 in Scamblesby, mother was Eliza Emmerson  (C030771) Ancestry search--Eliza Emmerson, b 1805, +- 5 years, died 1867 in Lincolnshire   Result #1--Eliza Emmerson found in 1861 census, District 4, Horncastle, Horncastle, Lincs Foundry Street Workhouse b. about 1805, age 56, b. in Tathwell, Lincs  (Horncastle District) Tathwell is located 3 miles south of Louth.  Also, about 3 miles from N. Reston, 4-5 miles from Scamblesby/Goulceby/Market Stainton. And 1.5 miles from Raithby. Listed as inmate Imbecile from birth       This disqualifies the Elizabeth Emmerson listed above, born on 3 November 1805, and an imbecile from birth, as being "Eliza Emmerson" Snowden, my 4th great grandmother. Ancestry Search--same criteria   Result #2--Eliza Emerson (one "m"), age 46, b. about 1805 in Tathwell Listed as "An Imbecile"      This further disqualifies her as her condition appears consistent over a ten year period.  My grandmother appears in other census records for these periods. Ancestry Search--England and Wales FreeBMD Death Index    Result #1--Eliza Snowden, b. about 1807, died at age 60, registration in Louth, first quarter of 1867.  GRO Book 7a, page 411 Ancestry Search--Eliza Snowden, age 35, b. about 1806, married to William Snowden.  1841 Market Stainton, Lincs census.    Result #1--Correct person.  approximate date of birth was 1806 Ancestry Search--Eliza Snowden, age 43, b. about 1808, married to William Snowden.  1851 North Ormsby, Lincs census.  Born:  British subject.    Result #1--Correct person.  approximate date of birth was 1808 Ancestry Search--Eliza Snowden, age 52, b. about 1809, married to Willliam Snowden.  1861 N. Somercotes, Lincs. census.  Born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England    Result #1--Correct person.  Approximate date of birth was 1809.    Result #2--Portsmouth, Hampshire was listed as place of birth.  This is the first reference to an exact birth location found.  If true, the Scamblesby parish record clearly is the wrong person.    Result #3--All verifiable references to Eliza's birth precede the 1805 birth date of the Scamblesby record.  Therefore, that record must be a different person. Parish Record--Scamblesby Parish, Marriage record    Marriage of William Sowden and Eliza Emmerson, spinster of the Parish, were married in this church by Banns with the consent of ______ (no one listed) this fourth day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty five.  (Document continues)    Result #1--If Eliza was born in 1808, and married in 1825, her age at marriage would have been 17.  This appears reasonable for the day.    Result #2--their first child Emmerson, born in August of 1826, would have arrived ten months after the marriage.  This appears reasonable, even for a 17 year old to conceive. CONCLUSION:  Based upon the facts shown above, it is reasonable to conclude that Eliza's birth likely was in about 1808.  The most probably birth location, based upon the census return of 1861, would be Portsmouth, Hampshire.  However, that is a substantial distance from Lincolnshire and these people were poor agricultural workers.  It is possible though, with no other intervening options at the present time.    For purposes of accuracy, Eliza's birth date will be changed to abt 1808 and the location of her birth will be left open for now, with a general note about Portsmouth.  The christening date will be removed also. === Hello Ron, I know everything about the EMMERSON/EMERSON seen in the Record at Scamblesy given by the Batch Number C030771 The concetration to Eliza and Elizabeth who appear on my Tree, have been accounted for. Eliza of 1803 was the "imbecile" who died at the Union Street Workhouse at Horncastle and who was buried at Goulceby. Elizabeth born and christened 1805, these types of events suggests that the child was likely not to survive and only probably lived for a few hours. The Eliza who went to marry William was Eliza of Alverstoke, literaly 2 miles distant from Portsmouth, Hampshire (See my Map) who is linked to Robert and Ann. Portmouth is a "Naval Port" even in Henry VIII days We, have firm evidence to this where Emmerson her son was resident possibly in the same house as  Robert and Ann in 1851. She was born in 1808/9 according to the reliabilty of her 1851 and 1861 Census, even her burial suggests that she was born in 1807. Whichever date, her birth can only be estimated at 1808 and therefore christened aged 4, if using this method. If you believe that she was even Elizabeth of 1805 she would have been 46 years of age when she had Emmela. Even if you were still to believe she was Eliza of 1803 she would have been 48 years of age and menapauseing. It is the singular reason that Emmela was likely not to survive and sadly it was so, even when she was about aged 44. I had in my last email provided a possible Elizabeth who could have been Eliza, found in the Tathwell Record, where I know Elizabeth EMMERSON of South Somercotes was resident in 1841. It was even assumed that her daughter natural daughter Eliza, was from Tathwell in her 1851 and 1861 Census Returns until it was corrected in her later Census Returns. Eliza EMERSON of Alverstoke/Portsmouth now must stop at the Adoption by Robert and Ann, despite "The English Emersons" which, was written closest to dates of the events. It shows "issue", the term is loosely based and I advise that it may not always mean natural but "child of". The register at Alverstoke shows "Eliza" Regards Leslie 7 Above may be correct. On 1841 Census she is shown as not being born in the County; and on 1851 Census she is a British Subject and on 1861 Census being born in Portsmouth, Hampshire. Heather ROGERS, nee JOHNSON, my cousin and myself are convinced that that Eliza born on 5 July 1803 is the correct Eliza, but she has given vague information because she was illegitimate. Her mother Elizabeth is sister to Robert Emmerson and according to stories in the family he looked after his sister and her illegitimate children. Robert was press ganged into the Navy in 1795. His wife Ann was born in Elsham, Kent. Robert spent all his life in the Navy and ended up a Warrant Officer (see his part of the Tree). Emerson SNOWDEN was present at Ann's death and Robert and Ann were living next door to Emerson in 1851 Census and Ann was living with Emerson in 1861 described as a Widow. [6]
  Person ID	I59	Ronald Allen Snowden Family Tree
  Last Modified	8 Jun 2013

  
  

  Father	Robert EMMERSON,   b. 5 Oct 1777, South Somercotes, Lincolnshire, England ,   d. Jul 1856, North Somercotes, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 78 )
  Mother	Ann FOUND,   b. Cir. 1782, Eltham, Kent, England, UK ,   d. Cir. 1866  (Age ~ 84 )
  Married	9 Ene 1811	Alverstoke , Southampton (Hampshire), England, UK   [9]
  	Alvestone Parish--Source: Book The English Emmersons, Lincoln
  _UID	2371CCC307144BA4A0028DD861ADEED50590
  Notes	Marriage found on Hugh Wallis website, representing LDS index of Alverstoke Parish, Hampshire, England Marriage date of 9 Jan 1811 Spouse: Ann Found ==== Photo of birth record, Alverstoke Parish, found on Ronsgen.com --- Photo of marriage record, Alverstoke parish, found on Ronsgen.com ===
  Documentos		Alverstoke Parish Record Marriage of Robert Emerson and Ann Found Solemnized on the ninth day of January of 1911. Both Robert and Ann signed the document with their "X"
  		Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Parish Records Marriage of Robert Emerson and Ann Found 9 January 1811
  Historias		History of Robert Emerson and Ann Found Married by banns, 9th day of January 1811 at Alvestone Parish, Southampton, England Robert Emerson went into the Navy and was superannuated as boatswain of H.M.S. Sheldrake, June 30, 1817, given at Chatham 3 July 1817. He was wrecked in HMS Boreas (Commander Scott) on the Hanny Rocks, off Guernsey, in 1807. He also served in HMS Victory. He was baptized October 5, 1777, at South Somecotes, Co. Lincoln. He left issue: (Children)
  Family ID	F116	Group Sheet

  
  

  Family	William SNOWDEN,   b. Cir. 1803, North Reston Lincolnshire, England, UK ,   d. 13 Jul 1866, Manby, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age ~ 63 )
  Married	4 Oct 1825	Scamblesby, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK   [5]
  	See marriage entry in Scamblesby Parish Record
  _UID	C8BB27870CB3457CA150B6A88EA19ED29FAE
  Notes	Register of Marriages Parish of Scamblesby, County of Lincoln, England Marriage of William Sowden of the Parish and Eliza Emmerson, spinster of he Parish, were married in this church by Banns with the consent of _______ (no onelisted) this fourth day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty five. By me, B.F. Fowler, Curate The marriage was solemnized between William Sowden and Eliza Emmerson in the presence of Mary B___well and James Bray. No. 41 Page 14 =======
  Children	1. Emmerson SNOWDEN,   b. Cir. 1826, Scamblesby, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK ,   d. 13 Nov 1909, North Somercotes, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age ~ 83 )   2. Eliza SNOWDEN,   b. 1828, Scamblesby, Lincolnshire, England, UK   3. George SNOWDEN,   b. 1831, Cawkwell, Linconshire, England, UK ,   d. Oct 1912, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 81 )   4. William SNOWDEN,   b. 1834, Cawkwell, Louth, Linconshire, England, UK ,   d. 23 Ene 1877, Manby, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 43 )   5. Vilet SNOWDEN,   b. 2 Abr 1838, St. Leonard, South Cockerington, Linconhire, England ,   d. 8 Dic 1912, Fulstow, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 74 )   6. Emma SNOWDEN,   b. Ant. 29 Abr 1838, St. Leonard, South Cockerington, Linconhire, England ,   d. Ago 1859, South Cockerington, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 21 )   7. Esther SNOWDEN,   b. Cir. Mar 1840, Lambcroft Ludberang, Lincolnshire, England ,   d. Sep 1861, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age ~ 21 )   8. Ephraim SNOWDEN,   b. 28 Ago 1842, Sotby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England, UK ,   d. Jun 1921, Louth, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age 78 )   9. Thomas SNOWDEN,   b. Cir. Jun 1845, Sotby, Lincolnshire, England, UK ,   d. Dic 1869, Manby, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age ~ 24 )   10. Ellen SNOWDEN,   b. Jun 1847, Raithby, North Somercoates, Lincolnshire, England ,   d. May 1909, Ludford, Louth, Lincolnshire, England  (Age ~ 61 )   11. Emmela (Emily) SNOWDEN,   b. Cir. Sep 1850, North Ormsby, Lincolnshire, England, UK ,   d. Dic 1851, North Ormsby, Lincolnshire, England, UK  (Age ~ 1 )
  Fotos		St. Mary's Church Manby, Lincolnshire, England Known burials at this church are Eliza Emerson Snowden
  		Marriage Record of William Snowden and Eliza Emmerson--Scamblesby Parish
  Documentos » Slide Show		Marriage of William Snowden and Eliza Emmerson Scamblesby Parish, Lincolnshire, England Married in the Scamblesby Parish Church on the fourth day of October in the year 1825. It is interesting that both William and Eliza signed their names and did not use the customary "X" mark. William was an agricultural worker throughout his life, and demonstrated an unusual level of literacy for the day. Eliza's handwriting is quite elegant as well.
  		Marriage Record William Snowden and Eliza Emmerson Issued after Banns 4 October 1825 Note the handwriting of both William and Eliza Extraordinary, for agricultural workers of the era
  		Burial Records of William and Eliza Manby, Lincolnshire parish records
  		Marriage Registration Manby Parish Records (Lincolnshire, England) The marriage of William Sowden (Snowden), Bachelor and Eliza Emmerson, Spinster was approved by Banns and performed on the 4th day of October, 1825. Note the handwriting of both William and Eliza near the bottom of the form--which was remarkable given the fact that they were barely 20 years old and lived in rural farming communities. That William spelled his name as Sowden is not unusual, as spelling was phonetic in that era and the name was spelled in several ways.
  		Manby Parish Record 1866/7 Burials 282 and 284 Record of the burials of William and Eliza Snowden. Record for William contains no forename, but the date shown is correct. Eliza's matches known records Williams age, listed as 62, places his birth year at approximately 1803/4. This corresponds to his Christening on November of 1803 in North Reston Parish.
  Family ID	F17	Group Sheet

  
  

• Fotos » Slide Show		Eliza EMERSON
  		Eliza EMERSON - 1
  		Eliza EMERSON - 2
  		Eliza EMERSON - 3

  
  

  Documentos		Burial Record, Eliza Snowden Manby, Lincolnshire--1867
  		Birth record of Eliza Daughter of Robert and Hannah Emerson Alverstoke Parish Records. Review writings of Leslie Deane for information on this connection.

  
  

  Historias

  Emmerson Family Crest Provided by Leslie Deane

  
  

• Sources

  [S45] [S470] 1841 England Census--Market Stainton, Lincolnshire, England. [S546] 1851 England Census--North Ormsby, Lincolnshire, England, UK. [S251] 1861 England Census--North Somercoates, Lincolnshire, England, UK. [S381] [S351] Family History, Shirley (Johnson) Berry. [S253] 1851 England Census--Cockington, Lincolnshire, England, UK--North Ormsby Parish; Louth; Binbrook. [S354] National Burial Index--England. [S709]